Monday, March 30, 2009

Mistakes Ministers Make (Tyler)

I interviewed Lauren R. a church member of Davis Wesleyan Church on Sunday, March 29th. about some of the mistakes a new staffer could make on their first job. Here is what she said:

1) Have a Prideful Mindset - If you come into a pastoral position with the mindset of "I am doing the congregation a favor", you will fail. Put yourself at the same level as the congregation.

2) Be Shy - On the flip-side, if you are scared of the congregation, they will not get to know you and trust you. It is a catch-22. You are scared of the congregation and they are scared of you.

3) Make Drastic Changes - If you have a change mindset, great. But don't go making changes that are going to scare people. Slowly ease people into the ideas that you want to bring. It is a slow, but progressive process.

Thursday, March 26, 2009

Week 11 (Mistakes Ministers Make) Michael Berens

Week 11
Michael Berens
March 31st 2009

Mistakes Ministers Make

I interviewed Nancy Campbell (Darren was also there)
March 11th,2009

1. Don't assume More Authority than you have
New Pastors come into the game biting off more than they can chew and getting themselves stuck

2.Don't Over Work yourself
New pastors always seem exhausted, probably becasue they are not use to all the pressure

3. Dont Neglect internal Life for business
It seems like a lot of pastors forget to be filled and they just give and ive until they are empty/

Extra
4. Dont forget Ministry is about relationships
at the end of the day, Ministry is about people, not about getting the job done.

Wednesday, March 25, 2009

People Work (Tyler)

Learning to work with people is not a subject that is learned in a class. It cannot be "taught" necessarily. Working with people is "learned" in a few different ways. One of the most common ways is through innate ability to work with people. The term, "a people person" exists because there are simply people that know how to work with people. They have always had the ability to deal with people and their issues and know how to handle them. This is not an ability that they were taught in a class. They simply just reacted on their instincts. However, not everyone has this ability. It is a difficult thing to learn, but it can be learned. Mostly it is learned through experience. It is impossible to learn how to work with people if you are never around people. So the first way of learning to work with people is actually working with people. The important step in this process is choosing where to expose yourself to people and deciding how to present yourself. Because you will make mistakes while trying to learn how to work with people. You will offend people and people will offend you. It is a process that you must work through, however. When you offend someone, you will learn what you said or did and learn not to do it again or at least you will learn to do it in a more tactful manner. There you go, first lesson learned. Its the school of experience. If someone offends you, you will begin to understand why and make sure it doesn't happen to you again. Second lesson learned. These lessons will just continue to be learned as you spend more time working with and around people. You can read books about it in order to externally experience working with people. But, it isn't until you truly work with living and breathing creatures that you know how to truly work with people. If I was a senior pastor asking professors for students that know how to work with people, I would be asking professors for students that seem to be around the most people a lot of the time. People with people and social skills will know how to work in a staff and make a staff work with others. It is an important principle that is simply learned in experience.

Week 10 (People Work) Michael

Michael Berens
People Work
03/26/09- Thursday

Michael’s Personal Top tips for working with people
1. Be a listener: being listened to is one of the biggest satisfaction. Just knowing someone has heard and understands you can change a hot temper to a calm and collective conversation. If someone is sad, they just want to be listened to as well. Listening and then learning to speak in the right time is a lesson that we all will always learn.

2. Find common ground: Finding commonality between each other is that start of true connection. Even if you are completely different people, genders, whatever, there is always at least one thing you have in common. Take mothers for example. Everyone came from a mother; therefore you can talk about mothers. Once you dig into the minor subjects it can lead to find other commonality, which will help later on. It is much harder to hatefully fight someone you know and love than it is to fight someone random.

3. Put yourself in the footwear of another. When there are disagreements or off putting, out yourself in their mind. Think about what they are feeling and thinking about that lead to this. Maybe there are external situations that we cannot know about. If they are moody, maybe they have had a rough day and need a friend. If they are weird maybe they have not had good social contact with other humans and need a friend. Putting yourself in their footwear can lead to a true relationship. After all Jesus walked in our footwear and out skin just to have a relationship with us.

Monday, March 23, 2009

Solo Pastor (Week 10 Replacement Post)

I interviewed Aaron Cloud on Sunday, March 22 about the difficulties and joys of being a solo pastor. Aaron is on a staff of one person. He is the senior pastor, youth pastor, and small group pastor. While this may seem like a blessing to many people who are constantly involved in arguments amongst the different staff pastors in a church, there are certainly downsides to being a solo pastor. What makes Aaron's situation unique is the fact that he not only is the only pastor at the church, but is also the youngest person who attends the church. Aaron finds himself in a difficult situation every single day that he wakes up. He isn't able to "bounce" ideas off other pastors. He isn't able to relate relevant information to peers his own age. He simply is alone. The term "solo" pastor takes on a whole other meaning. It is difficult for someone who has constantly been surrounded by people his own age for the past 22 years and then all of a sudden have the exact opposite. So, some of the positives of a solo pastor are listed here:

1) You make your own schedule and there is no scheduling conflicts with any of the other pastors on staff, because you are the only one.

2) You are free to be as clean or messy as you want in the office because you are the only one there. Obviously if the Board asks you to keep a clean workspace, then you would follow those wishes, but for the most part, you are free to do whatever.

3) You have no conflicts with anyone else about issues that you normally find in a typical office space. You only conflict with yourself.

However, as I mentioned before, there seem to be more negatives than positives when it comes to being a solo pastor (at least in Aaron's case):

1) It is lonely. We were created to live in community, and when that is taken away from you, you find yourself missing a huge hole in your body and soul. So, there is a tremendous sense of loss and a need for community.

2) It is narrow focused. Without the ability to bounce ideas off others, you tend to only listen to your own points of view. When that happens, you begin to travel down a slippery slope of only believing yourself.

3) It is lonely. Seriously, this is the worse part.

4) It is easy to become stagnant. When there is no one there pushing you to do better, you become pretty stagnant and not able to move very quickly. I think our natural inclination is to go slow and not progress. Without someone there pushing us, we become stagnant and don't progress.

These are just a few thoughts....

Week 10 (board Meeting) Michael

Michael Berens
Week 10 replacing Week 3 (Board Meeting)
03/24/04
Board meeting

I attended Exit 59 Church on Sunday, the meeting Lasted for 2.5 hours
The decision making process for Exit 59 utilizes Roberts rules of order. It. looks like this;
Suggested item, someone seconds it, then discusses. Finally there is a vote on the subject by hand.

There are dozens people on the board at different times. All the church staff is included in that circulating group of board members. There are main people that attend every month. Jeremy Dillard who creates the agenda and Lisa Crandall who keeps the minutes.

Because Exit 59 looks a little different the board runs a little different. Only really big issues ever make it to the board. The big things usually deal with large sums of money or large program start-ups. This week there happen to be a large program start up.

A new missions department is opening up at out church and a new missionary was to be approved by the board to join the program. Everyone was in accord for her to be approved and for the new missions department to pass. Chris Demarse told me that this is usually the case, but people can disagree depending on the subject matter. Chris also told me that at these meetings feelings could be shared because it is definitely like being in a family rather than a business. After a motion, second, discussion, and a vote, the person was accepted to the missions department. After that the group discussed how to accept more people into the program. They were also trying to figure out how to make the process easier in the future.


I learned that if a church runs like a family it makes everything seem friendlier. I can see that passions can run high if everyone is a brother or sister, so that could lead to over zealous fights. I did not see that here, but I could see that since feelings are shared, feelings can be hurt. It works for this church, but I cannot imagine it working in a different setting. Robert’s Rule of Order help the process of feeling sharing and opinions more faster.

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Seven Characteristics of a Church Leader

1. A good leader has an exemplary character.

It is of utmost importance that a leader is trustworthy to lead others. A leader needs to be trusted and be known to live their life with honestly and integrity. A good leader “walks the talk” and in doing so earns the right to have responsibility for others. True authority is born from respect for the good character and trustworthiness of the person who leads.

2. A good leader is enthusiastic about their work or cause and also about their role as leader.

People will respond more openly to a person of passion and dedication. Leaders need to be able to be a source of inspiration, and be a motivator towards the required action or cause. Although the responsibilities and roles of a leader may be different, the leader needs to be seen to be part of the team working towards the goal. This kind of leader will not be afraid to roll up their sleeves and get dirty.

3. A good leader is confident.

In order to lead and set direction a leader needs to appear confident as a person and in the leadership role. Such a person inspires confidence in others and draws out the trust and best efforts of the team to complete the task well. A leader who conveys confidence towards the proposed objective inspires the best effort from team members.

4. A leader also needs to function in an orderly and purposeful manner in situations of uncertainty.

People look to the leader during times of uncertainty and unfamiliarity and find reassurance and security when the leader portrays confidence and a positive demeanor.

5. Good leaders are tolerant of ambiguity and remain calm, composed and steadfast to the main purpose.

Storms, emotions, and crises come and go and a good leader takes these as part of the journey and keeps a cool head.

6. A good leader, as well as keeping the main goal in focus, is able to think analytically.

Not only does a good leader view a situation as a whole, but is able to break it down into sub parts for closer inspection. While keeping the goal in view, a good leader can break it down into manageable steps and make progress towards it.

7. A good leader is committed to excellence.

Second best does not lead to success. The good leader not only maintains high standards, but also is proactive in raising the bar in order to achieve excellence in all areas.

These ideas are adapted from Barbara White's thoughts on Leadership. (http://ezinearticles.com/?expert_bio=Barbara_White)

Week 9 ( Leadership Qualities)

Michael Berens
Week 9
03/19/09

Leadership Qualities

1. Recognizes the value in other people, so continually invests in others
A leader should always be ready to help and encourage those around them. This helps the group as a whole and the individual that needs help.

2. Shares information with those in the organization.
Someone that is open and honest will go a lot further than a conniver. It could hurt the leader in the end if they are honest, but at least they were accountable to God.

3. Has above average character
A leaders character should be far above the rest. It should be something that people want to follow after and model after. If the leader is not a model, why are thy in the spotlight?

4. Uses their influence for the good of others
Someone who has good influencing skills should be able to influence for the good and the bad. If that is true then it is a matter of choice to not hurt others or step on them with the power a leader has. It is important to serve rather than be served.

5. Is skillful and competent
The leader cannot just be a face. They must be able to teach and act. If they are just a face of leadership they will be found out and sunk. A house built on sand is faulty and breaks eventually.

6. Not afraid for others to succeed (even greater than their own success)
A leader should be seeking out the furthering of others and the group. A leader should serve and be ready to lay down his nice position in the mud, so others can be served. A leader should be ready to be last.

7. Serves others expecting nothing in return.
Servant hood is the key. To serve is to expect nothing in return. Leaders should be up front as much as they need to be, other than that they should be serving from behind the scenes where no one can even give them credit for their skills.

8. Continues to learn
A leader should always be ready to learn from books and from people. They should not be so stuck in an opinion that they turn everyone away over a silly subject. They should also be advanced in knowledge and training so that they can lead the diverse peoples that might come under their wings.

9. Remains accessible, approachable, and accountable to others
These three things in combo make up a great person in general. If a leader was doing this anyone would want to follow them. If we expect people to do this, why wouldn’t their leaders be the first to be accountable and open.

10. Is visionary: Thinks for the organization beyond today.
A leader should see the breadth of life. They should look to the past, present and future for decisions. They should look at the mistakes from the past and see the changes that will affect the future. They must lead in sight and Ideas as well.

This is adapted from Ron Edmondson’s good leader characteristics
http://www.ronedmondson.com/2009/02/10-characteristics-of-good-leadership.html

Monday, March 16, 2009

Week 9 (Firing a Teacher)

Michael Berens
Week 9
March 17th, 2009

Firing a Teacher

I interviewed Chris Demarse and Darren Campbell on Wednesday the 11th of 2009.
I interviewed them at Darren Campbell’s house at a staff meeting.

As soon as I said the word “fire,” They cringed and said that our church is not necessarily a firing church. It is more of a finding out what their gifts are. If they are doing unwell in a position and is failing then maybe they do not have the teaching gift. It is then a matter of testing what their gifts are and how they can be used in a ministry setting. A spiritual gifts test can be used for this. Prayer should also be used. Once it is found it should be encouraged. A “hand hold motto,” may be a good idea for this person, as they may seem disgruntled in some way. So it is not really about firing. It is more about finding out what their gifts really are.

Firing a Teacher (Week 9)

I interviewed Pastor Cloud about this topic, and he informed me that he has never had to experience firing a teacher of Sunday school or otherwise. So, I decided to look up some various articles on the internet that covered this topic. Also, I happened to do a Wikipedia article on the same topic:

1. Prayer: Before rushing out and fring a volunteer, the careful minister of Christian education will spend time asking God if, when, and how the person should be terminated. Prayer should be focused on both the best interests of the ministry and the person.
2. Documentation: Write down the problems that have been observed as they occur. Though the Christian educator should avoid bringing this information into the conversation when dismissing a person, at least as proof of the fairness of the decision, the documentation does help a pastor avoid emotionally based decisions. It helps maintain objectivity.
3. No surprises: Firings should not catch the person being terminated off guard. Some type of ministry performance review should be provided for all volunteers, and in this process areas of concern or failure should be brought to the attention of the offending party. Then if the person does not respond to such suggestions he
or she should not be shocked by the firing procedures. A similar procedure is outlined in Matthew 18:15-17.
4. Don't rush: Rapid termination of a volunteer rarely is done well. Emotions may blur good judgment. Facts get confused. Task orientation sometimes hinders sensitivity to people.
5. Don't renew: If possible, rather than fire a volunteer, it is better not to invite the person to teach or sponsor for another year. This means that each volunteer should have an automatic "sunset" on his or her commitment. A ministry cut-off date usually occurs at the end of a school year or at the beginning of the next one. Absence of renewal, however, does not mean an absence of communication. The volunteer deserves the right of an honest appraisal even if not asked to continue in the current capacity.
6. Don't delay: In situations where moral or theological problems are involved, the Christian educator must act with all deliberate speed. As soon as the facts are verifed, action should be taken. Remember, however, this type of action is not designed to destroy the volunteer. On the contrary, every effort should be made to be redemptive - both for the person and for the ministry.
7. Private appointment: Firings should not be done publicly. A specifc time should be established when the CE minister (or other supervisor) and the volunteer can evaluate the ministry effectiveness of that person.
8. Self-evaluation: Rather than dumping a load of complaints on the volunteer, the wise supervisor will first ask the person for an appraisal of the year's ministry in the light of the job description and ministry objectives. A majority of the time the volunteer will be harder on himself than the supervisor would have been.
9. Confront if necessary: If the volunteer appears blind to the weaknesses which seem obvious to others, then the person will need to be told of specifc shortcomings. This must be done in a spirit of love and respect.
10. Affirm positive qualities: Sometimes the self-evaluation or loving confrontation will obscure the positive contributions that a person has made. Such activities should be complimented specifcally and genuinely to avoid this problem.
11. Allow resignation: After the problems have been examined, ask the volunteer what should be done. If he or she resigns, accept the resignation with humility of spirit. If the person still does not get the picture, the Christian education leader will have to ask for the resignation.

Week 9 (Tuesday)

I interviewed Pastor Mary, on Monday, March 16th in her office.

1. Figure out their passions – talk to them about the passions
2. Encourage them and walk alongside them
3. Send others to encourage them
4. Match gifts and talents to their passions
5. Listen to people for interests – then try to match

Other Tips:
- Have help
- Spiritual Gifts Tests to match gifts and talents to passions
- Leadership training and resources

Wednesday, March 11, 2009

Michael Berens (Conflict)

Michael Berens
03/12/09
Week 8
Conflict

1. God has taught us to love. That sounds like the church buzz word these days and it may be. The truth about love is that true love really creates an opportunity for God to work. If we are loving in Humility and Peace seeking then God can move with more ease.

2.We have free will. With that free will we fight each other. We can choose to believe one thing and do another. If everyone is doing this, it creates tension. The tension relaxer comes when we submit our selves to a greater will. If two people in a fight really stopped to ponder what God’s will was for that specific situation, there might be a better chance that a resolution would come faster. The very notion that people would think outside themselves is enough to ease some tension.

3. Gentleness was mandated by Paul in 2 Timothy 2. He said teach people in gentleness. He also said to be teachable. With the open heart of learning and the ability to teach in love, conflict should be one sided. If both sides of the conflict have this attitude then there may be no more argument at all. The churches of Paul’s day had lots of conflict. Paul knew what he was talking about. Be teachable and teach in gentleness. Got Paul Thanks.

Monday, March 9, 2009

Motivating Volunteers (Tyler)

I interviewed Aaron Cloud on March 9th, 2009.

Aaron gave me a short list of tips that would be helpful in motivating volunteers:

1) Golden Rule: Treat volunteers the way you would like to be treated. This is the most important of the tips that were given, because it drives the other tips. If you treat the volunteers with respect then they will respect you back. If you treat them with disrespect, then how can you expect respect back from them? Treat others the way you wish to be treated.

2) Time Off: Do not overwork volunteers. Even the volunteers who claim to desire to want to work really hard, don't allow them to burn themselves out. A volunteer who is burnt out is a volunteer who is useless. So, regardless of their desire to work, allow them to have time off. Force them to have a vacation and go enjoy themselves.

3) Face-To-Face: In large churches, especially, it is easy for a pastor or full-time staffer to organize volunteers without actually ever seeing them. They go from phone call to phone call signing people up for volunteer voids and then before you know it, they haven't seen a single person face-to-face. The personal contact is a necessity in order to create relationships between people. Meet people face-to-face.

4) Work Alongside: This goes with the face-to-face contact, but more importantly, you must serve with the volunteers. You have to do what the volunteers do in order for them to respect you and feel motivated. By showing them that you care about what they do, you are showing them that you care about them. Get your hands dirty. A supervisor that never gets his hands dirty is someone that isn't respected.

5) Schedule: If you give volunteers a schedule they will feel more in control of their time. If they know when and where they have to volunteer next, they will be more reliable and willing. So often, churches will call volunteers in the last minute, and they will not be able to come. Or, if they can come, they will not be effective. It is a bad situation for the church and the volunteer. So, motivate them by letting them know when they are supposed to volunteer next.

These are just a few of the many tips that Aaron had. Essentially, you just need to respect volunteers and view them as people and not tools.